Professor Marston and the Wonder Women

Professor Marston and the Wonder Women

DVD - 2018
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The story of psychologist William Moulton Marston, the polyamorous relationship between his wife and his mistress, the creation of his beloved comic book character Wonder Woman, and the controversy the comic generated.
Publisher: Culver City, California : Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, [2018]
Branch Call Number: DVD PROFESS
Characteristics: 1 videodisc (approximately 108 minutes) : sound, color ; 4 3/4 in
4 3/4 in.,rda
digital,optical,surround,Dolby Digital 5.1,rda
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video file,DVD video,region 1,rda
Language Note: In English with optional English or Spanish subtitles; closed-captioned

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voisjoe1_0
Oct 23, 2018

Mildly interesting true story of college Professor Marston who is married to a "modern" woman and they add a young college woman to their home as they realize they are both in love with her. These new ideas, mid-20th century, induce the professor to come up with the idea of publishing a new Wonder Woman comic book telling the tale of a strong woman with powers and ability to tackle the evils of the world. Possibly includes justice Kavanaugh's devil's triangle.

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chaliser
Oct 10, 2018

I gave this 4 stars (vs more) only because it resonated with a theory (DISC) that I wish had been comparitively discussed in the special features WITH a few OTHER theories about giving and recieving in relationships, as well as in social evolution. had that been brought out (somehow), a wider audience would have a much deeper understanding vs being turned off by certain elements, even though they engaged critical factors in/as parts of the story. Let me see if can make that more clear.
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Marston was a pioneer in the scope of the later, and "DISC theory," as Angela Robinson (in the Special Features). noted, had it's weakpoints or holes (in the broader picture of giving and recieving) when applied to personal relationships. But where those holes exist, my question is: were they, or were they not brought out in the movie through the Marston family's interractions, while NOT in Marston's theory? Could they have been, short of a followup movie, or only through a lecture? Note that there were so many other competing elements in the given socio-emotional-easily-political complexity of a setting, that perhaps, one movie could only lightly touch upon these things, let alone give a fair-weighted management to them in the first place. I'd be tempted to want 5 more minutes to lay those comparitives out more clearly in some fashion - through context of story telling, even if those principles were not fully laid out in the psychology lectures of those times. Or in the special features.
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Granted, Robinson is brilliant in rendering the story while more than subtley hinting -therein- of the previous noted key elements, while she seems quite at home in discussing the depth and breadth of both psychology and development of the movie production. And as for my asking for more, I admit that rarely does one lecture in psychology give equal weight to the different psychological perspectives. But why not three in the next dvd design? :-)

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mr_chocolate
Sep 28, 2018

I found this to be a very touching film, looking at three people that loved each other, and raised a family facing the backlash of societies rules and normalization of their times. The film is well directed, displaying empathy for this uncharacteristic love match and uncommon partnership that provides the viewer with a touching insight into their hardship and the birth of the comic book character, Wonder Women.
The film does end with some real pictures and text to include biographical updates to these three people that found love.

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atfrancis
Sep 03, 2018

I agree with Michael Taggart Maloney's comments. Also, couldn't understand why the protagonist/narrator was a man when the movie was centred around strong women of the day. Would have been much more interesting told from the women's point of view.
The part I found best was the photos and commentary after the movie ended.

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PinkPangolin
Aug 26, 2018

I quit watching this at one point. It seemed to have a lot of lesbian scenes. I wasn't expecting that. I thought it was going to be more of a drama.

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molly
Aug 25, 2018

This movie is very very good, beautifully acted, and interesting. I first noticed it because it stars Rebecca Hall who is always brilliant. Bella Heathcote is amazing, as well as beautiful. At the end the movie shows you photos of the real people and tells you what happened to them, which is always a plus. Check it out on Rotten Tomatoes

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richmole
Aug 15, 2018

One of the movies I will remember for years to come--It's that unusual and that good.

Based on a real story, it's the stranger-than-fact tale of, among other things, the creation of the superhero (or super heroine) Wonder Woman. The other things: the life and loves (2 women, simultaneously) of family-man Professor William Marston, the man whose psychology theories found expression in a comic-book fantasy in the 1940s.

Back then, comic books definitely did NOT have the upscale image and social acceptance of today's graphic novels. In fact--as the movie makes clear--those 10 cent comics were seen as moral danger to youth, and not only in the USA. Canada's federal government actually banned comics. These fears were understandable in Wonder Woman's case, with its (early) focus on Sado-masochism and bondage. (In Canada, the biggest threat was thought to be overt violence of the crime comics--says something about us, perhaps...)

The story is well told, spanning almost 20 years, well-shot--good work by TV series (HBO's Hung) Angela Robinson and believable performances by Luke Evans (the dragon-slayer in the Hobbit) as the prof; Rebecca Hall, a terrific actress with a penchant for edgy drama (Christina; The Gift) as the prof's wife and the lover of his student, played Australian actress Isabella Heathcote.

This is a good one.

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misatim
Aug 02, 2018

Why do stories about women always end up being about a man? Two women want to be together but one's husband has to muscle his way in even though one of the women has made it very clear (under a lie detector) that she wants nothing to do with him. So the two professors in positions of authority over a 21 yr old's career manipulate her into a position they can control. Because of this he thinks tying her up is a good idea! Then he makes a comic that is supposed to be about loving powerful women. Remind anyone of Amber Heard and her female lovers, with two old white men trying to control her via money, Depp, and Musk? The "one female superhero" from the 1930's is now about him and his lust and selfishness? One line in the film says something like "why does following the wims of your cock always end up being called science?" The acting is good, sets, costumes, but the storyline seems a little rose coloured glasses to me. I am so glad women are now controlling Wonder Woman.

Marston's DISC theory is interesting, as is his career in the World War Two era comic-book industry, but sadly the film mostly devotes itself to shopworn menage a trois eroticism. It is a snoozer.

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avocadotree
Jul 10, 2018

Very interesting. I liked it very much. Strong characters. Shows photos of the real people as the credits roll

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jimg2000
Jul 06, 2018

IMDb has some quotes including a couple of them herein:

What would I want with a penis?
- Heh.
Seriously, it would be exhausting to have one organ... constantly directing the course of your life.
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Elizabeth, peach, penis envy is figurative. It means a woman experiences an envy of the male position in the world. His dominance. His ability to penetrate not just the woman, but... life.
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Can't solve war by simply studying men's feelings.
-Of course, you're right. Men's minds are far too limited. That's why we need women.

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jimg2000
Jul 06, 2018

My aunt said, "A woman must not be told how to use her freedom... she must find out for herself."
-Your aunt, my dear, is quoting Margaret Sanger.
My aunt is Margaret Sanger.
- The Margaret Sanger?
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Dominance, inducement, submission... and compliance. All human relationships break down into the interplay... between these categories of emotion. A person is most happy when they are submissive to a loving authority. It is essential that a person submits to an authority willingly... that it is their idea. We get into trouble when people feel forced to do something... they don't want to do, and that is merely compliance.
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If the nature of men is inherently violent and anarchistic... and the nature of women is inherently loving and nurturing... then shouldn't women be the ones to rule the world?

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jimg2000
Jul 06, 2018

People who comply instead of submit... are unhappy and repressed... and this can lead to resentment. Taken to its extremes... it can lead to crime, war, fascism.
How do you avoid compliance? It seems like... that is built into most situations.
- Inducement. Inducement is the act of seducing somebody to your way of thinking... dominating them so completely... that what you want is what they want... and they love giving it to you... and that, ladies, is the key to life, to love, to happiness... to peace. Women are better at inducement than men.
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Why is Wonder Woman an Amazon?
-In Greek mythology, Amazons were a powerful tribe of women... who lived without men.
- Without men?
It is important to me that young girls... realize they have the power within themselves to create their own destiny. To be president of the United States if they want.

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jimg2000
Jul 06, 2018

Wonder Woman has a secret identity. Yes, she does.
- Why is that?
She has to hide her true self from man's world.
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Who says there's no pain in love? Love is painful. We hurt the ones we love all the time with our words, our deeds. The nature of love is pain.
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Wonder Woman will not be an ordinary comic book. But instead, the start of a powerful feminist movement. She will be carefully crafted, psychological propaganda... based on a lifetime of research into the human mind... inserted into a populist medium to further equal rights for women.
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You don't even deny that these images are overtly sexual.
-An erotic component is necessary. How else is submission supposed to be pleasurable? I am teaching readers to submit to a loving authority. And that submission is pleasurable. Young boys must learn this... if they are to grow up respecting powerful women.
What is powerful about a woman running around in a bathing suit?

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jimg2000
Jul 06, 2018

What troubles me is that you're trying out... your so-called psychological experiment on children.
-Children are our great hope.
Do you let your children read it'? Your little girl? I don't know why your wife puts up with it.
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I thought I knew everything. I thought love wasn't enough. But it... It has to. It has to be enough…
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Wonder Woman is a love letter. She is a fantasy. She comes from a distant place where there is beauty... and justice, and respect. I write what I see about women I know... women who are every bit as just... and strong, and capable as Wonder Woman. Now, we can debate the length of her hemline. But what is important... is the way Wonder Woman reforms criminals. She makes them tell the truth. That is what she stands for... the truth.

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imagenel
May 15, 2018

"She's guileless and you are a grade-A bitch, together you'll make a perfect woman"
(Marston to wife & mistress)

"Olive, do you want a penis?" (Wife to mistress).

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Olgalevin
Mar 12, 2018

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